penn 113h/114h rebuild

[alantani]

the 4/0 senator's are probably the hardest reels for beginners to start working on. the whole problem is the dog spring. when i first started, it took 2 minutes to disassemble the reel, and 2 hours to put it back together. practice with this, and you should be able to have the reel back together in minutes instead of hour.

this is the first (and hardest) of the conventional reel designs to work on. the dog spring is the hard part. learn this and it's all downhill!

here's the short version.....

1. first, assemble the bridge, main gear, drag washers and all metal washers up to and including the tension spring (#8A) and set this aside. if you grease the drag washers, it will not fall apart.

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2. start with a bare side plate. install the eccentric, the eccentric spring and the eccentric lever (freespool lever).

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3. there are four bridge screws. two are threaded at just the tip. the clutch springs ride up and down on these. two are threaded the entire length. don't mix them up.

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insert the four bridge screws.

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cover two screws with your left index finger, cover two with your left middle finger. the side plate should be oriented so that the free spool lever is closest to the palm of your hand.

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note that you can now flip over the site plate and play with the guts of the reel without the screws falling out. you do not need to use masking tape anymore.

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4. flip the side plate over and look at the empty guts. install the clutch springs.

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install the pinion gear and yoke as a unit.

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install the eccentric jack.

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install the bridge/main gear/drag assembly. orient the bridge plate to it's final position just to get your bearings. now rotate the bridge plate 90 degrees counter-clockwise.

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install the dog.

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rotate the bridge plate clockwise until it covers three of the bridge screws. now continue to rotate the bridge plate until it covers just half of the last and final bridge screw. push the bridge down firmly against the plastic side plate.

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see the small gap??????? this is where the dog spring goes. take a deep breath. hold it. now insert the dog spring in through the gap and gently push it down into position with your index finger. be careful not to let it fly off into neverland. ok, it's in. breathe.

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6. rotate the bridge plate clockwise until it lines up with the bride screws. hear the click?

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cinch down each screw. check to see that the freespool lever works. check the anti-reverse mechanism. when the reel is finally assembled

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you need to make sure you can get 20#'s of drag. if not,one of the keyed metal washers is probably not seated properly. you have to do this all over again.

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let us know how it goes!

[Boppa]

Welcome Alan :) :)

Great article mate :)

Looks like we're going to have to make a new section :D :D

Thanks mate

Boppa

[alantani]

here's the dog for the 114h. now, this is important. note how the point of the dog is not symmetrical. the longer or "sharper" end goes against the ratchet gear for the gear sleeve. see the difference? get it backwards and the handle will go flying back in your hand.

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and here's your dog spring. doesn't look like much, does it. i'll tell you, though. i've lost dozens of those other tiny dog springs. never lost one of these!

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and here's what it looks like just before you close it up. everything else, before and after, is the same.

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[alantani]

the handle is your interface with the reel. ever been on a big fish for an hour or more? the bigger the handle, the better. these handles will all work on the 113h senator. the first is the standard two position handle. the second is the handle from a single speed penn 30 international. the third is an arm from the 30 international, but the grip is something that a machine shop buddy makes for me.

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bigger is definitely better!

[JOCOOL]

Does anyone use these old reels, or are they regarded as old tech these days?:o

[alantani]

oops! that's right. these would be considered "imports" for you. they cost $100 (us dollars). EVERYBODY here in the states either has one now (i have 8) or they've had one in the past. they are considered cheap, fairly reliable and easy enough to service.

hmmm, maybe we should rethink this. um, so what kind of reels do you fish with?

[Jimbo]

Great read Alan!

[JOCOOL]

hmmm, maybe we should rethink this. um, so what kind of reels do you fish with?
Don't get me wrong Alan, I'm sure some people do use them. Most of my overheads, actually all of them....are Shimano's. I have a couple of TLD's, a Charter Special, a Calcutta, and a Castaic. All my other reels are spin reels in a mixed range such as Shimano, Okuhma and Daiwa's.

I also have some Alvey's, but you can't help with them!:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

The articles you did on the TLD's were awesome and very relevant to what we use here. So feel free to publish those articles here for all to see. And I know that the Avet's are getting popular too. And I think some people are keen on the Daiwa overheads also. I saw you had an article on the 50 SLD I think????

[JOCOOL]

ABU's are popular here too!

[leelee]

Top read Alan.

Welcome to the site.

I'm sure your valuable knowledge of reels and maintenance and beefing them up will come in handy. Im sure you will have alot of questions to answer.

Cheers

Lee